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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by David W. Boles</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David W. Boles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 19:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pot.  Kettle.  Black.

Sullivan strikes again -- all without getting it!

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I wonder how Rubin would respond to a similar analogy about, say, &quot;the first Jewish president&quot;, as Peter Beinart has described Obama? If that had been a Newsweek cover, would she have written a post on how great it is that her candidate - running against a Jew - could now exploit anti-Semitism for his political advantage? I mean: there is no policy dispute here. She is simply delighted that her candidate can get an advantage through homophobia. 

Or to put it more bluntly: If I had said the same thing, in a Jewish context, I&#039;d be a bigot. What does that make Rubin?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/my-gift-to-romney.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pot.  Kettle.  Black.</p>
<p>Sullivan strikes again &#8212; all without getting it!</p>
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I wonder how Rubin would respond to a similar analogy about, say, &#8220;the first Jewish president&#8221;, as Peter Beinart has described Obama? If that had been a Newsweek cover, would she have written a post on how great it is that her candidate &#8211; running against a Jew &#8211; could now exploit anti-Semitism for his political advantage? I mean: there is no policy dispute here. She is simply delighted that her candidate can get an advantage through homophobia. </p>
<p>Or to put it more bluntly: If I had said the same thing, in a Jewish context, I&#8217;d be a bigot. What does that make Rubin?
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<p><a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/my-gift-to-romney.html" rel="nofollow">http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/my-gift-to-romney.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by David W. Boles</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David W. Boles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um.  Ouch.  But well-deserved. I&#039;ll take the community correction over a singular intervention any day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um.  Ouch.  But well-deserved. I&#8217;ll take the community correction over a singular intervention any day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by jonolan</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t so much bullying the bully as it was a very nasty one-off ambush by a pack of his previous victims that left him hospitalized and permanently damaged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t so much bullying the bully as it was a very nasty one-off ambush by a pack of his previous victims that left him hospitalized and permanently damaged.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by David W. Boles</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David W. Boles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the way to solve it!  Bullying the bully by the Bullied Committee!  Power in numbers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the way to solve it!  Bullying the bully by the Bullied Committee!  Power in numbers!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by jonolan</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, we had one those types. One day he made the mistake of not noticing a bunch of his victims following him on the way home...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we had one those types. One day he made the mistake of not noticing a bunch of his victims following him on the way home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by David W. Boles</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David W. Boles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that&#039;s generally true, though there were also bullies around where I grew up who were more than happy to beat people over and over again just for the sport of it.  You had to be careful in your challenges because they could lead to &quot;whenever I see you, I get to beat you up&quot; default.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s generally true, though there were also bullies around where I grew up who were more than happy to beat people over and over again just for the sport of it.  You had to be careful in your challenges because they could lead to &#8220;whenever I see you, I get to beat you up&#8221; default.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by jonolan</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Same as when I grew up. Funny thing was, a lot of times, even if the bully trounced the victim who stood up to him, the bullying ended. It was often as if the bully knew that the victim was no longer to be classified as prey because he had chosen to fight and winning or loosing that fight didn&#039;t make any difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same as when I grew up. Funny thing was, a lot of times, even if the bully trounced the victim who stood up to him, the bullying ended. It was often as if the bully knew that the victim was no longer to be classified as prey because he had chosen to fight and winning or loosing that fight didn&#8217;t make any difference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by David W. Boles</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David W. Boles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent insights, jonolan, thanks!

I agree -- when I was growing up, if you were bullied, you settled it on the playground after school let out.  People watched and circled.  There was a fight happening!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent insights, jonolan, thanks!</p>
<p>I agree &#8212; when I was growing up, if you were bullied, you settled it on the playground after school let out.  People watched and circled.  There was a fight happening!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Andrew Sullivan Fails the Bullying Pranks Test by jonolan</title>
		<link>http://panopticonic.com/2012/05/14/why-andrew-sullivan-fails-the-bullying-pranks-test/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonolan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing, most Liberals and almost certainly most modern minority groups (for any value of minority) won&#039;t be bothered overmuch by Sullivan&#039;s examples - teachers and serious pro-teacher sorts being the exception to this.

In the Liberal mind, &quot;bullying&quot; of the majority, representatives of the majority, or authority figures is far less reprehensible than &quot;bullying&quot; those groups that the Liberals have decided deserve special protected status.

On another note, it&#039;s a stupid. Kids pick on each other and sometimes it&#039;s bullying. That&#039;s ugly but normal; it&#039;s how pubescent people work out their positions in the overall hierarchy. 

It&#039;s just going to get worse too since the schools don&#039;t allow the students to settle it themselves anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing, most Liberals and almost certainly most modern minority groups (for any value of minority) won&#8217;t be bothered overmuch by Sullivan&#8217;s examples &#8211; teachers and serious pro-teacher sorts being the exception to this.</p>
<p>In the Liberal mind, &#8220;bullying&#8221; of the majority, representatives of the majority, or authority figures is far less reprehensible than &#8220;bullying&#8221; those groups that the Liberals have decided deserve special protected status.</p>
<p>On another note, it&#8217;s a stupid. Kids pick on each other and sometimes it&#8217;s bullying. That&#8217;s ugly but normal; it&#8217;s how pubescent people work out their positions in the overall hierarchy. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just going to get worse too since the schools don&#8217;t allow the students to settle it themselves anymore.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 15:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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